Comments on: PMP PDUs: diminishing value sham or real professional development? http://www.dermanagement.com/archives/18 Excellence in IT Project Management Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:49:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Mans Shapshak http://www.dermanagement.com/archives/18/comment-page-1#comment-2656 Mans Shapshak Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:58:52 +0000 http://www.dermanagement.com/archives/18#comment-2656 Interesting debate here. For someone who is evaluating course material it is really difficult to know the value of specific courses. One never knows if online reviews are real. But I tend to agree with John, just because the training is less expensive ie. example Cornelius Fichtner PMP Prepcast podcast training which offers 35 PDUs for $49, PMCampus´s 35 PDU online course for $199 or $400 for a PMP preparation course at Johns company. Looking at the different online training sites I get the feeling that what this is really about is that prices are being marked up by online course providers. As an example consider the following. MIT is making all of their courseware available online. So people could do all those courses online with the $100 laptop and then take an exam at a small training center in a small village in India for $30 or they could take the exam at MIT for a total cost of $180,000. Who would know more? Best Regards, Mans Shapshak <a href="http://pmtracasa.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Project Management Trainee Program</a> Interesting debate here. For someone who is evaluating course material it is really difficult to know the value of specific courses. One never knows if online reviews are real. But I tend to agree with John, just because the training is less expensive ie. example Cornelius Fichtner PMP Prepcast podcast training which offers 35 PDUs for $49, PMCampus´s 35 PDU online course for $199 or $400 for a PMP preparation course at Johns company.
Looking at the different online training sites I get the feeling that what this is really about is that prices are being marked up by online course providers.
As an example consider the following. MIT is making all of their courseware available online. So people could do all those courses online with the $100 laptop and then take an exam at a small training center in a small village in India for $30 or they could take the exam at MIT for a total cost of $180,000. Who would know more?

Best Regards,

Mans Shapshak
Project Management Trainee Program

]]> By: PMP PDUs: Is Inexpensive and More Convenient a Bad Thing? | Project Management Insights, Ideas, and Analysis http://www.dermanagement.com/archives/18/comment-page-1#comment-2538 PMP PDUs: Is Inexpensive and More Convenient a Bad Thing? | Project Management Insights, Ideas, and Analysis Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:05:32 +0000 http://www.dermanagement.com/archives/18#comment-2538 [...] better way are helping to SOLVE the problem.  In my opinion, the author quoted – his post:  “PMP PDUs: diminishing value sham or real professional development?” – is not being part of the solution, and really is not even effectively describing a [...] [...] better way are helping to SOLVE the problem.  In my opinion, the author quoted – his post:  “PMP PDUs: diminishing value sham or real professional development?” – is not being part of the solution, and really is not even effectively describing a [...]

]]> By: John Reiling http://www.dermanagement.com/archives/18/comment-page-1#comment-2537 John Reiling Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:06:50 +0000 http://www.dermanagement.com/archives/18#comment-2537 I saw absolutely no substantiation in the claims above. It could be true, but it is certainly unsubstantiated. I suggest providing some concrete examples. The PMI has every reason to uphold high standards. Also, vendors have every reason to provide a quality product or service. Vendors also would be crazy not to try to come up with less expensive and more convenient ways to earn PDUs! What is the REAL problem here! By way of example, my company, Project Management Training Online, sells web-based training for PDUs at a price far below the $350 per 10 PDUs quoted above. And we have received nothing but positive feedback on the courses, which were actually created by REPs. In addition, PDUs can be earned by volunteer service. I, for one, have volunteered to work on the committee seeking speakers for our events - for the New Jersey Chapter of the PMI. PMPs can also earn PDUs from other volunteer work related to project management, and can write and speak on the subject to earn PDUs also. If there are issues, I think they should be brought out, but broad and baseless generalities are not effective at doing that. John Reilng, PMP Project Management Training Online <a href="http://www.pmtrainingonline.com" rel="nofollow">www.pmtrainingonline.com</a> I saw absolutely no substantiation in the claims above. It could be true, but it is certainly unsubstantiated. I suggest providing some concrete examples.

The PMI has every reason to uphold high standards. Also, vendors have every reason to provide a quality product or service. Vendors also would be crazy not to try to come up with less expensive and more convenient ways to earn PDUs! What is the REAL problem here!

By way of example, my company, Project Management Training Online, sells web-based training for PDUs at a price far below the $350 per 10 PDUs quoted above. And we have received nothing but positive feedback on the courses, which were actually created by REPs. In addition, PDUs can be earned by volunteer service. I, for one, have volunteered to work on the committee seeking speakers for our events - for the New Jersey Chapter of the PMI. PMPs can also earn PDUs from other volunteer work related to project management, and can write and speak on the subject to earn PDUs also.

If there are issues, I think they should be brought out, but broad and baseless generalities are not effective at doing that.

John Reilng, PMP
Project Management Training Online
http://www.pmtrainingonline.com

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